Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Jan 29, 2008 10:15:30 GMT -5
I do not understand the Topic Heading to this thread.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 29, 2008 10:24:02 GMT -5
"All I need to know"? What is this? The Soviet Union?? I didn't ask for a time line. All I wanted to know was whether the sprain was mild or severe. If it's severe, there's a good chance he may be done for the year. If it's mild or moderate, we know the recovery time is around 6 weeks on average for a high ankle sprain. If she did follow up, then she should have indicated that the source wouldn't give he any more detail or didn't know anything more. What does this have to do with trusting JT3 or not? I have no beef against him--I love the guy. My beef is with the bad reporting. So you don't want a timeline...you just want to know how bad the injury is so you can get a rough idea of when he'll be back?  "All I need to know"? What is this? The Soviet Union?? I didn't ask for a time line. All I wanted to know was whether the sprain was mild or severe. If it's severe, there's a good chance he may be done for the year. If it's mild or moderate, we know the recovery time is around 6 weeks on average for a high ankle sprain. If she did follow up, then she should have indicated that the source wouldn't give he any more detail or didn't know anything more. What does this have to do with trusting JT3 or not? I have no beef against him--I love the guy. My beef is with the bad reporting. Absurd. Anyone who has followed Georgetown basketball for more than a week knows that 1. Camille Powell works hard at her job and gives us as much as she can without engaging in reckless speculation (something we cannot say for her counterpart at the Times) and 2. Getting complete information from JT3 about injuries or anything else that does not need to be disclosed is only slightly easier than it would be from Bill Belichick. Seriously. Hoya Paranoia isn't some cutesy nickname that we picked up because of it rhymed. This is a program that tapes the cracks on the doors shut during practice so no one can see in. I've seen Camille get yelled at (only half jokingly) because she interviewed GTown students about the program without the SID there, despite there being ANOTHER athletic dept. employee there to monitor the conversation. It doesn't matter how much work Camille puts in, or how many follow up questions she asks, because she's not getting the info on Dajuan's injury unless JT3 decides to give it to her. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 10:27:23 GMT -5
My point is simply this: there are so many possibilities here - I listed three entirely legitimate scenarios in my previous post, and I'm sure there are plenty more, like maybe DaJuan hasn't had this type of injury before, so he doesn't know how quickly he might heal. Ankle sprains are notoriously hard to predict. Some seem severe at first, but heal quickly. Others seem minor, but nag forever. If they call it "Mild", but DaJuan is out for 6 weeks, are you going to throw another hissy fit then? What if they call it "Severe", and he's back in 2 weeks? Will you be questioning why they brought him back so quickly? And brasky, if you ever compare me to YB again, I will hunt you down and show you no mercy.  |
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Post by jarninwashere on Jan 29, 2008 10:29:02 GMT -5
Absurd. When did I ever suggest she should engage in "reckless speculation"? I only said she should ask the commonsense follow up question about severity and report what the answer was.
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Post by I Bleed Hoya Gray on Jan 29, 2008 10:30:44 GMT -5
I do not understand the Topic Heading to this thread. It's saying that it's easier to decide who we should play instead of DaJuan and it's easier to decide how long to rest him because we have more leeway in the conference now that we have a two-game lead. |
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Post by jarninwashere on Jan 29, 2008 10:38:57 GMT -5
So you don't want a timeline...you just want to know how bad the injury is so you can get a rough idea of when he'll be back? We may be engaging in an argument over semantics here. I thought he was suggesting I wanted a definitive timeline as to when DaJuan would be back. Of course, I would never expect that. But according to what other posters on this board have said, there is a huge difference between a mild high ankle sprain and a severe one--it's likely the difference between whether he comes back this year or whether he doesn't. As a diehard fan, that's all I wanted to know. |
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jan 29, 2008 10:41:46 GMT -5
Maybe I'm naive and ascribing more nobility than is realistic, but I highly doubt the size of the Hoyas lead in the Big East -- or the team's standing in the conference at all -- have anything at all to do with JTIII's and Lorre Michael's decision as it relates to when Summers can return.
It may affect Dajuan's thinking, I'm sure he wants back on the floor as soon as possible, but I am hopeful that our coaching staff is not making decisions using such criteria.
Hell, even Norman Dale thought better of putting Everett back in the game.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 29, 2008 10:51:59 GMT -5
Maybe I'm naive and ascribing more nobility than is realistic, but I highly doubt the size of the Hoyas lead in the Big East -- or the team's standing in the conference at all -- have anything at all to do with JTIII's and Lorre Michael's decision as it relates to when Summers can return. It may affect Dajuan's thinking, I'm sure he wants back on the floor as soon as possible, but I am hopeful that our coaching staff is not making decisions using such criteria. Hell, even Norman Dale thought better of putting Everett back in the game. You know they are. Why wouldn't it affect when he comes back? It's not like there's some magical "injure-o-meter" on his ankle that tells you if it's 75%, 80%, or 90% healed. It's things like "slight discomfort" "hurts when I move laterally" and other vague terms. So if we need him to win and he says "I can play," all coaches are more likely to play a player in a big situation and play it safe in a meaningless one. |
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Post by jarninwashere on Jan 29, 2008 10:55:42 GMT -5
My point is simply this: there are so many possibilities here - I listed three entirely legitimate scenarios in my previous post, and I'm sure there are plenty more, like maybe DaJuan hasn't had this type of injury before, so he doesn't know how quickly he might heal. Ankle sprains are notoriously hard to predict. Some seem severe at first, but heal quickly. Others seem minor, but nag forever. If they call it "Mild", but DaJuan is out for 6 weeks, are you going to throw another hissy fit then? What if they call it "Severe", and he's back in 2 weeks? Will you be questioning why they brought him back so quickly? And brasky, if you ever compare me to YB again, I will hunt you down and show you no mercy. And he might break his leg riding a tricycle down the Exorcist Steps... Yeah, the future remains to be seen--we know, we know. All I asked for was a simple commonsense follow up question from the reporter to get as much information as we can now. (Heh, I don't think I'm the only one throwing hissy fits around here.) Oh, and props to Braskii for the kind words for a greenhorned rookie such as myself. |
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 29, 2008 10:58:06 GMT -5
Coach doesn't have to tell us anything about Dajuan's injury. That information should be kept to Dajuan, his family, his doctor, and the team. I don't know why coaches ever share information about injuries. What is the benefit of broadcasting private information which only helps the opposition?
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jan 29, 2008 12:10:46 GMT -5
Actually it is a bit like the Soviet Union: the most authoritative information you could hope to know is what the leadership knows and what the leadership knows about the situation might not be worth all that much.
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Post by jarninwashere on Jan 29, 2008 13:09:16 GMT -5
Actually it is a bit like the Soviet Union: the most authoritative information you could hope to know is what the leadership knows and what the leadership knows about the situation might not be worth all that much. And we each have a "Red Square". (Assuming it's still called that these days.) |
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 29, 2008 15:52:58 GMT -5
SPECULATION! SPECULATION! Indeed, we don't know that DaJuan doesn't have Giselle. |
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Post by KennaHoya on Jan 29, 2008 17:47:14 GMT -5
In a shocking development, Georgetown released its press notes for the St. John's game, and revealed nothing about the status of DaJuan Summers' ankle. The Hoyas did note, however, that Mr. Summers "is second on the team in scoring (10.8 ppg) and has scored in double figures in 10 of the last 14 games."
Apparently at the urging of Senior Sports Communications Director Bill Shapland, head coach John Thompson III took questions after practice, telling fans in attendance "we will announce the status of DaJuan's ankle on Wednesday, at the same time we announce the status of Tom Brady's ankle." Assistant coach Robert Burke also stated that Georgetown wished to report that "DaJuan emphatically denies the rumors that he spent the last two days in Cabo with Beyonce Knowles."
DaJuan has been, is, and will be a great contributor to Georgetown Hoyas basketball. All the best DaJuan.
Lock this one too?
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Post by jarninwashere on Jan 29, 2008 17:51:20 GMT -5
In a shocking development, Georgetown released its press notes for the St. John's game, and revealed nothing about the status of DaJuan Summers' ankle. The Hoyas did note, however, that Mr. Summers "is second on the team in scoring (10.8 ppg) and has scored in double figures in 10 of the last 14 games." Apparently at the urging of Senior Sports Communications Director Bill Shapland, head coach John Thompson III took questions after practice, telling fans in attendance "we will announce the status of DaJuan's ankle on Wednesday, at the same time we announce the status of Tom Brady's ankle." Assistant coach Robert Burke also stated that Georgetown wished to report that "DaJuan emphatically denies the rumors that he spent the last two days in Cabo with Beyonce Knowles." DaJuan has been, is, and will be a great contributor to Georgetown Hoyas basketball. All the best DaJuan. Lock this one too? LOL I feel like the bad boy of the chat board now. |
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HoNYaSaxa
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Jan 29, 2008 17:56:04 GMT -5
Kenna: My sarcasm detector's running low today. Those quotes have to be manufactured (and JTIII rarely, if ever, answers questions at or after practice, or even allows press for that matter).
But, did our press release really say nothing about DaJuan's status?
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 29, 2008 17:56:27 GMT -5
LOL I feel like the bad boy of the chat board now. When Camille Powell posts that information on the Post website or it appears in the paper, then it is fair game. If you have questions about whether it is appropriate, you should have addressed it with one of the moderators via PM in advance. And no, sarcasm is not a 'lockable' offense. |
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KennaHoya
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Post by KennaHoya on Jan 29, 2008 17:57:23 GMT -5
Don't feel that way - I am sure that many of those waiting anxiously appreciated your effort. And for what it is worth, the fact that the official pre-game release comments about DaJuan, and says nothing about his status, may be consistent with what you heard from the Post writer, albeit informally.
Or it could mean that they do not know yet, or that they prefer to keep it within his small circle for now.
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HoNYaSaxa
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Jan 29, 2008 17:58:38 GMT -5
Dan, would you feel comfortable with Jarnin just forwarding the Camille email to you? I assume her email is available and can be confirmed via the Post's website and that Jarnin (if he's being truthful here) has correspondence with her to and from that address.
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KennaHoya
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Post by KennaHoya on Jan 29, 2008 18:03:55 GMT -5
My two cents:
I was just trying to lighten up the board about the incredible conjecture about DaJuan's ankle. It was not really sarcasm, but was intended to be a spoof of sorts. (Bill Shapland encouraging JT III to address fans after practice? Um, I don't think so).
As for the locking stuff, I can see both sides. I do not think the original poster would have been clear that the rule was violated (they did apparently ask a reporter a question, and got a written answer). However, I think the Board Administrator does make significant efforts to prevent the explosion of rumors that can affect young kids' lives. So give him kudos for that effort, and let's move on.
And even he probably doesn't think your a bad boy.
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