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Post by Cambridge on Dec 4, 2007 14:37:57 GMT -5
Ravens played like an emotionally unstable squad of talented freshman. Everytime they seemed to put the Pats away, they shot themselves in the foot. The best part, they always find somebody else to blame--real mature. If you are going to talk smack all game, all week, all season, all career...at least have the self-respect to man-up afterwards and take the defeat with dignity. To whine and complain about a conspiracy is so laughable and ridiculous to defy belief.
The truth is their coach blew it. That time out absolutely killed them mentally. They had Brady and Co. stopped on 4th and 1 to end the game...BUT no, the self-appointed "smartest coach in the league", the "offensive genius" Brian Billick called a time out and absolutely destroyed his defense. They never recovered. They went off the rails and melted down.
The best sequence of the game had to be the last TD, followed by a complete meltdown by Scott. He manages to get two -- TWO -- unsportsmanlike conduct flags. I understand that you may have disagreed with the TD call; understandable, however even if the TD call was overturned as it may well should have been, with those two flags the Pats line up first and goal on the 2-yard line with 55 seconds to go. Sure, the Ravens may have stopped the Pats with another goal line stand, but do you want Tom Brady and Co were going to get four more shots at the endzone at the end of the game no matter what due to Mr. Scott's tantrum.
You, Mr. Scott, are an IDIOT. An absolute IDIOT.
If that wasn't enough, the Ravens appeared to intentionally line up offsides on the extra point (WTF does that PROVE to anyone other than the fact that you are immature, emotionally unstable, petulant children!?!?) when there is more than enough time on the clock to kick a game tieing field goal. The end result, another penalty that allows New England to kick off from the Raven's 35 yard line. Real smart. There goes the return.
Don't think those yards are important? Well, the Ravens were about 4 yards from the endzone on the final play of the game...I think the yards they potentially gave up on the kickoff put a definite nail in their coffin.
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Post by RDF on Dec 4, 2007 14:38:32 GMT -5
The game was lost on Reed and Boller turnovers--and their inability to pick up a 1st down after having 2nd and 3rd and two yards to get to keep chains moving. Calls were shaky--but you take game from officials by converting plays and if they always make a call against you--ala Pitt-WVU--then it becomes so obvious what is going on that someone will have to evaluate the situation.
As for things that need to be addressed from this game:
1. Bart Scott's penalties--if he doesn't lose his composure--Ravens might have a shot to tie the game.
2. Vince Wilfork is heading for a serious fine/suspension if he keeps going low on QB's--this is the 4th time I've seen it--and it's blatant--if I were Pittsburgh I'd already be pointing this out to league office. He almost got Boller last night and did get Losman, tried to get Feely, and took a shot at Romo too.
3. Patriots LB Corps--Seau and Bruschi look AWFUL right now--and Harrison is not much better at Safety. Middle of defense is starting to look very marginal and that's not a good place to start showing weaknesses. Rosevelt Colvin's injury is a lot more important to Pats then media has talked.
4. How awful did Chris McAlister look and has he looked this season? He's DONE. Gets beat so bad he takes a dive in hopes of an offensive interference call on Moss? Pathetic.
5. Watch when Junior Seau comes into the game on offense and how much credit he gets as a blocker and then watch what actually happens--it's typical bad announcing by NFL commentators.
Whining about calls in regards to losing you the game is pathetic. Bringing up points--like the Vince Wilfork leg diving at QB's is not whining--it's protecting your players and bringing to attention a blatant act to injure players. As a fan who likes Pats and is a Cane fan, I tried to give Vince the benefit of doubt--but it's happened far too much to be a coincedence. He better get this corrected or it will cost him/team--like say on a 3rd or 4th down play in Playoffs and is called to keep a drive alive with a minute left and leads to team losing--and a huge fine or him missing playoff games due to suspension.
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Post by Boz on Dec 4, 2007 15:47:13 GMT -5
I don't think Billick called for that time out. I'm pretty sure that was all Rex Ryan. I can't say for certain, but on replays, it didn't look like Billick was anywhere near Ryan when he was signaling for the TO. [edit: Buffalo beat me to it]
I liked the post-game presser, when Tom Brady indicated he stopped playing on that 4th & 1 play because he heard the whistle. That if the whistle hadn't blown, he would have made the first down. Really. That takes some balls. According to Wilbon, even though everyone else in the room laughed, it didn't look like he was joking either. (though I didn't see it personally, so I can't say for sure; he may have been kidding).
I doubt McCallister is done, but he is hurt this year & probably shouldn't have been playing last night. He has looked awful all year, but I think he's still good if healthy.
I think one of the Ravens biggest screw-ups though, one that no one has mentioned and would've ended the game, was on the tipped ball that Brady threw on that last drive. Antwan Barnes, (granted a rookie), was literally standing almost directly underneath the ball. If he had just put his hands out, it would've practically fallen right into them. After the ball hit the ground, you could see Bart Scott and Ray Lewis looking at him like, "What the hell, man? Why did you let that drop?" That was a certain pick.
Of the other screw-ups, Boller's was much worse than Reed's. It wasn't like he was trying to lateral or holding the ball out. He had it tucked in pretty well and Faulk just stripped it. Got to give Faulk credit for that. I can't blame Reed too much for trying to make something happen on the return. Boller just underthrew into triple coverage & he should know better by now.
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Post by Jack on Dec 4, 2007 15:57:12 GMT -5
Brady was joking about the 4th and 1. I saw the presser.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 4, 2007 16:45:42 GMT -5
Brady was joking about the 4th and 1. I saw the presser. He was definitely joking.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 4, 2007 19:38:54 GMT -5
The real reason Baltimore lost was their failure to get a 1st down on their last couple posessions. If they get one or two first downs the chaos of the last minute doesn't happen.
The holding call was a bit ticky-tacky, but legit. It certainly wasn't a phantom call like we saw in the WVU-Pitt game. The final TD was a catch - even though the ball was on his fingertips he had complete control of it the entire time. He wasn't bobbling it, and the ball was going exactly where he wanted it to go.
Based on the first 90% of the game the Ravens deserved to win and the Pats deserved to lose. But you've got to finish, and the Ravens didn't do that.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 5, 2007 6:49:55 GMT -5
the ravens need to shut up and stop crying and blaming everyone else for the loss. they looked like a bunch of 5 year olds throwing hissy fits in toys r us monday night. grow a set and stop someone when it counts instead of throwing flags and helmets.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 7, 2007 18:14:27 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 7, 2007 20:37:28 GMT -5
I read Billick's quotes and I'm reminded of the puppel number from "Chicago." Could anyone see Billy Flynn Goodell pulling the strings on Roxie Hart Billick while he was talking?
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Post by hifigator on Dec 8, 2007 11:53:26 GMT -5
Is there any chance that St Louis wins at Cincy, given that Horrid Brock Berlin is going to be at the helm?
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Post by RDF on Dec 17, 2007 12:35:29 GMT -5
Great job Jim Johnson and the Eagle defense--led by Brian Dawkins the most underrated player of his generation-they guy put on a clinic on how to play Safety--while his counterpart Roy Williams proved how cowardly is a level above the play and manner he conducts himself on the field with his tackle of McNabb.
BTW--Tony Romo---might want to leave your skanks at home--the games I've seen his trolls come to games--Dallas not only loses, he sucks. The "Curse" of Jessica Simpson? I think it would be hilarious if that did in the Cowboys and they lost every game out rest of way--which WILL happen if they lose to lowly Carolina on Saturday.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 17, 2007 13:11:14 GMT -5
RDF, you agree with Colin Cowherd. Imagine that.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 17, 2007 13:57:22 GMT -5
RDF, you agree with Colin Cowherd. Imagine that. Well, RDF, it's been a good run for you, but if that doesn't call for seppuku, well, then I don't know what does.
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Post by RDF on Dec 17, 2007 14:39:16 GMT -5
RDF, you agree with Colin Cowherd. Imagine that. Or maybe he agrees with me. I don't listen to Talk Radio and I imagine many feel this way that watch FB and saw the disaster that was Romo with his skank at the game a year ago--and then yesterday as well.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 17, 2007 15:53:13 GMT -5
He actuallywas comparing the Cowboys and the Patiots. His point was that the Patriots were interested in being in the red section of USAToday -- the Sports section. But it seemed like the Cowboys are too interested in being in the purple section -- social/Life section. Then someone made the point that unless you are singing the National Anthem, celebs ought not even be allowed on the field. I can't say that I disagree.
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Post by RDF on Dec 17, 2007 16:14:03 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something--but I only saw Simpson in a luxury suite at the game--was she on the field like Romo's old skank was?
I agree Pats are focused on FB--but so are a lot of the Cowboys players/coaches. I just was commenting on what I saw from Romo a year ago when his celebrity girlfriend was there and then yesterday as well. He played poorly in the games I noticed they were there and in my opinion Jessica Simpson got what she wanted--the FOX cameras on her--to draw attention away from the game--to her--and that sucks.
I'm indifferent towards Dallas--I loved them when Jimmy was running the team and Canes were abundant--but we had the game in our market as 2nd part of DH on FOX and noticed that crap--so felt I'd stir it up a bit.
BTW--I like Pats and I'm not happy with how they are playing lately either--I think a few more games like this--and we'll be reading of the greatest FLOP in postseason history.
If I were to select who I think gets to Super Bowl right now--I'd say Colts vs Packers. Hopefully I'll be wrong on the AFC end of things--and I just believe GB is more balanced/consistent then Dallas--who is starting to nosedive and will lose in the Divisional Round of Playoffs.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 17, 2007 17:48:16 GMT -5
Once again, you and Cowherd are in agreement, at least with regards to the Packers. He thinks the Cowboys slip up and lose homefield and end up not making it to the Super Bowl. Personally I don't see the Patriots losing. THat is the whole point. They are winning not playing well. Come postseason, I see more spankings handed out by the boys from Foxboro.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 17, 2007 21:21:21 GMT -5
I agree with hifi (pardon me while I search for a barf bag).
There, that's better.
Anyway, it was just last week that scribes everywhere were saying that the Steelers had a great shot at ending the Pats' streak because the Pats seemed to be slipping up. I didn't buy that, not because the Pats weren't slipping up, but because the Steelers have been a mediocre road team this year, and I expected the Pats to snap back. I think we will see more of the same in the playoffs. The only team with a decent chance to beat the Patriots is the Colts. And if they do, that won't be a great upset, even if the Pats come into the game 18-0.
As for Romo, he must have been thinking he was grabbing Jessica's boobs when he was holding on to the football.
I don't keep up with these things; who was last year's skank?
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Post by Filo on Dec 18, 2007 0:49:03 GMT -5
I don't keep up with these things; who was last year's skank? That was Joe-Kim Noah, wasn't it?
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Dec 18, 2007 11:14:46 GMT -5
Memo to ESPN: Rather than bore us with 15 minutes on how Romo plays poorly when his celebrity girlfriend du jour is in attendance, why not take a look at the other factor those two games have in common? You know, the Jim Johnson-led Eagles defense? Maybe report on SPORTS for once? Perhaps breakdown how their schemes frustrate what the Cowboys try to do on offense? How their personnel matches up well with Dallas' weapons? A little Jaws-like analysis? That too much to ask for? And instead of complaining how all these distractions feed the gossip pages, take a look in the mirror... by spending all this time on Jessica Simpson or Carrie Underwood you're doing the exact same thing, you bastards. What an absolute MOCKERY of sports ESPN has become. I couldn't agree more. One element of the story that makes it more odious to me is that she was wearing a pink-numbered jersey. Whoever is responsible for bringing these and pink hats into the world should be sent for a nice long vacation to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
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