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Post by RDF on Dec 21, 2006 0:53:07 GMT -5
Only Reggie Ball could WASTE Calvin Johnson's entire time at Georgia Tech and in his last game as a Yellow Jacket, and then give us fans a glimpse of Johnson without that awful midget as his QB--how? Reggie a 4 year starter and SR is INELIGIBLE. What leadership/devotion this youngster has shown Georgia Tech. Ball is the single most hated player I've seen in CFB for the past decade. He's a jerk, a terrible player, has no character or leadership abilities, and has prevented their program from getting better on/off the field. What a joke and only thing that scares me is that Ball was starting--so what do they have behind him? If it's anyone who resembles a real QB, Gailey should be fired for wasting Tech fans time and CFB fans the viewing of that miserable, good for nothing turd. A fitting end to one of the Worst CFB QB's of all time.
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Post by kghoya on Dec 21, 2006 11:07:12 GMT -5
so notre dame was the only school with close wins this year? please.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 21, 2006 12:26:33 GMT -5
Cancel your Gator Bowl bets, the Reggie Ball era at Georgia Tech has ended: StoryEDIT: Whoops, somehow missed RDF's post/rant above.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 21, 2006 13:26:08 GMT -5
Only Reggie Ball could WASTE Calvin Johnson's entire time at Georgia Tech and in his last game as a Yellow Jacket, and then give us fans a glimpse of Johnson without that awful midget as his QB--how? Reggie a 4 year starter and SR is INELIGIBLE. What leadership/devotion this youngster has shown Georgia Tech. Ball is the single most hated player I've seen in CFB for the past decade. He's a jerk, a terrible player, has no character or leadership abilities, and has prevented their program from getting better on/off the field. What a joke and only thing that scares me is that Ball was starting--so what do they have behind him? If it's anyone who resembles a real QB, Gailey should be fired for wasting Tech fans time and CFB fans the viewing of that miserable, good for nothing turd. A fitting end to one of the Worst CFB QB's of all time. Please let us know how you really feel. No pulling punches next time. ;D
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Post by hifigator on Dec 21, 2006 14:30:21 GMT -5
so notre dame was the only school with close wins this year? please. No, they are just the only school with their own network and the only school that annually gets a "free pass" into the BCS. They are also the only team overrated EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Some teams are overrated sometimes, but at least they overachieve every once in a while. For Notre Dame that is impossible because they are always regarded as being better than they really are.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 21, 2006 16:46:14 GMT -5
Bad news, hifi. John Brantley has ditched Texas for Florida, and Mack Brown is going to put the same curse on the Gators that he put on LSU when Ryan Perrilloux bolted. Expect Meyer to leave the SEC for the NFL and Mike Gundy to be named the next HFC at UF.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 22, 2006 10:46:59 GMT -5
The Mountain West dominates the first two bowl games. Now that there are five BCS games, perhaps we're coming close to the time where the Mountain West becomes the 7th BCS conference. This is no flash-in-the-pan "the Big East should lose its BCS bid" type argument. The teams of the Mountain West have been doing things right for years.
1. They're competitive. TCU is 3-0 against Big 12 teams over the past two seasons. Colorado State plays CU close every year. Utah has a recent Fiesta Bowl win. BYU, despite the recent slump, has been a competitive program for some time. Wyoming played a tough OOC schedule this year and came close to upsetting Boise State.
2. The schools are committed to football. Each of these schools has a good facility. There's also a trend of hiring good coaches. Fran and Patterson at TCU. Urban Meyer at Utah. You can go back to Joe Tiller at Wyoming. Mendenhall has produced great results since taking over at BYU.
3. Population trends. The rust belt continues to lose population. According to US Census figures released today, the mountain west is one of the fastest growing regions in America. The states with the highest rate of growth are Arizona, Nevada, and Idaho. Utah ranked 6th. Wyoming's population grew by 1.2% (although the entire state's population is still about the same as Austin's). State universities in this part of the country should get stronger as the population increases.
4. Recruiting area. BYU has been picking up underrecruited Californians for years. TCU recruits well in Texas. All the Mountain West schools are situated in or between two fertile football recruiting grounds. The Big Ten lives off Ohio/Pennsylvania recruits -- the Mountain West could do the same with TX/CA.
I really don't see any of the Mountain West programs getting worse in the future. If there's a counterargument here, its that programs like UNLV have yet to get off the ground. But the Mountain West this season was probably as good as the ACC, and UNLV was probably as good or better than Duke. It might not be time to give this conference an automatic BCS bowl bid yet, but it's getting close.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 22, 2006 16:12:23 GMT -5
You make some good points Austin, but I am not sure that I would take it as far as you suggest. Utah did have their perfect season, not surprisingly flourishing under Meyer in his second year, something which has now become a staple under his leadership.
On the larger scale, I am not sure that you can credit the conference as a whole for the competitive nature of a rivalry game like Colorado-Colorado St. I don't think that should necessarily reflect on the entire conference. TCU is a program that could bring conference credibility in my mind. I think they need to take one more step somehow to reach the next level. What excatly would that be is up for debate, but I think just like Gonzaga has accomplished in basketball, a TCU or Boise St. needs to try to accomplish on the gridiron. Boise St. has been a BCS buster this year, but I think they should try to make a bigger step. In the case of Gonzaga, it took a half dozen years or so of being a top ten team before they had the credibility on their own, and I still think they are one or two bad seasons away from losing all that they have gained, but I don't see any sign of such a season. I think in a similar manner a Boise St. or a TCU is on its way to comparable recognition on the football scale. And maybe your suggestion of conference recgonition would be that next step.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 22, 2006 17:17:40 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Dec 22, 2006 20:23:01 GMT -5
Why is this on this site? Honestly--I don't understand what meaning this has to CFB in any way? Was it Nelson's mother who was playing for Florida? Hifi, you are UNFRICKINGBELIEVABLE with some of the nonsense you post over here. There is no reason for this and if you can't stay on topic, you should be banned. You have been around long enough to know the rules--and how this pertains to anything in CFB thread or is of importance to us over here, I'd like to know. Otherwise, I really think you should be banned from posting if you continue to break the rules.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 25, 2006 1:07:20 GMT -5
Why is this on this site? Honestly--I don't understand what meaning this has to CFB in any way? Was it Nelson's mother who was playing for Florida? Hifi, you are UNFRICKINGBELIEVABLE with some of the nonsense you post over here. There is no reason for this and if you can't stay on topic, you should be banned. You have been around long enough to know the rules--and how this pertains to anything in CFB thread or is of importance to us over here, I'd like to know. Otherwise, I really think you should be banned from posting if you continue to break the rules. Enough is enough. I thought about a separate thread just to let anyone who might be interested know. I decided that since many of you gripe about "clutter" and the sort, that since it was a topic related to NCAA Football, that I would just discretely post it here with essentially no comment. This is not the time to bicker about this issue. I trust that you will look a little further at the details and I am sure you will realize that I was not doing anything wrong. Merry Christmas to the rest of you .... and even you too RDF.
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Post by RDF on Dec 25, 2006 1:28:48 GMT -5
It's ridiculous and has no purpose on this site, thread or a new topic. Nobody cares--sorry to say that but it's 100% true. Now if you want to talk about the game, or even UF basketball win over Ohio State, I can see starting a different topic or bringing this up over here--but it serves no purpose whatsoever. I know it is tough for the kid--but your personal plea for us to "pray for your friend" was garbage and a flat out lie to get friends--it's done on EVERY messageboard by trolls and you tried it here. This is pathetic attempt at sympathy for a school that I think you've made anyone neutral HATE. It serves no purpose and nobody cares--as you can see by the overwhelming response.
"Enough is enough"--dude, you've got some balls to even bring that up over here. You truly are one of the biggest buttholes I've ever encountered in any manner and the way you speak to members over here is beyond the point you should be banned--but you stay, so we deal with it and as I've said--despite the fact I'd rather you die painfully--if you post on topic and add to something, I have no problem with you--but this was another desperate attempt to bring your obsession with UF sports to a board that it has NO BUSINESS being posted on. I don't care if Nelson's mom died--I don't care if you die--heck I'd actually realize that Santa Claus possibly exists, but I just can't believe you've been here this long and felt this was needed on a Georgetown site--why? What interest would we have? It means nothing to anyone outside of Nelson's family and Gator fans.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 26, 2006 12:11:23 GMT -5
I am not going to get drawn inot one of your Editeding contests, so I will just make one more short statement and then drop it.
In case you hadn't noticed, Florida is playing for the National Championship in just under 2 weeks. Only Ohio St. can say that same thing. That being said, issues which could affect that game are of interest to some people, and not just of those fans from one of those teams. Maybe someone is contemplating a wager. I don't know. Could this be a distraction or an emotional burden which might affect Nelson's play? I don't know that either. Some could argue that it could serve as added motivation for the team, as they try that much harder or are that much more focused to win one for Reggie and his mom. Again, I don't know exactly how much, if any at all these factors atually come into play, but others have brought these types of effects up in the past. Given these factors, I posted the link here, as the story could easily have not gotten much coverage up there. In all honesty, most likely StPeteHoya and MiamiHoya may very well have seen the story. Accordingly BuffaloHoya probably didn't.
'nuff said on that. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You sure seem to talk an awful lot about Reggie Ball. That is kind of strange for a Georgetown board. Like you would point out, they're not in your conference and not really a regional foe. They aren't really even much of an occassional rival, yet you bring up Reggie Ball and his shortcomings a couple of times a week and have for a month or more. I mean if you think about it a little further, Georgia Tech isn't even in your same Division in football. They are an out of region and middle of the pack ACC team. What makes you think all of these people on this board give a rat's ass about Reggie Ball and the Yellow Jackets?
I am kidding obviously, but I hope you see the point.
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Post by RDF on Dec 26, 2006 12:34:31 GMT -5
I talk about Reggie Ball's play on the field and how awful he is--that's on topic. It's factored into the College FOOTBALL portion of this thread--unlike the talk of a player losing his mother. That has ZERO to do with results on the field and only a Gator fan would have the "Built in excuse" factor. Motivation is an overstated thing--if you can't get your team fired up to play a National Championship game and need to use "Win this one for Reggie's Mom"-that game is over before it started.
You have no clue how you were off topic here? Your comeback is to mention how I bash Reggie Ball's play and how it's hampered Calvin Johnson--and then he gets suspended as a 4 year starter/player for their Bowl game--which is tied into the play/team--unlike Reggie Nelson's mother dying.
Putting things into perspective--Bryan Pata dies and is a player on the team--it's a CFB issue and relative to what is going on. If Pata's mom died--it's NOT. See the difference? If not, then you should be banned immediately.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 26, 2006 13:15:10 GMT -5
I said I am not going to debate this issue endlessly. I think some people would be interested in knowing that the mother of one of the key people in such a huge game died. I am not expecting anyone to send flowers or something obviously. And really had and have for that matter, no intention of this becoming any sort of extended topic of discussion. We agree to disagree. I will let it go at that.
As far as the "motivation" angle, I am with you on that one. In fact that is why I worded it as I did. The sportscasters have always brought up issues like this as being extra motivation. Personally, to me if anything it would be more of a distraction and potentially could be weighing on Nelson's mind for a couple of weeks, but again that is just my opinion.
As far as the Reggie Ball issue goes, it wasn't one post. You have been on him all season. I was just pointing that out ... nto that I disagree at all, in fact I pointed out on the local show after Calvin Johnson won the Bilintnikoff award, that "even more impressive, is the fact that he did that in spite of Reggie Ball as his QB."
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Post by hifigator on Dec 26, 2006 15:14:18 GMT -5
One last note on this: it looks as though I am not the only person with my opinion on the topic. Strangely enough, no one there seems to side with RDF, and if anything, since they are the hated enemy for another day, you would think that one or two of them would bI!tch about the "clutter" on their board. forums.bucknuts.com/showthread.php?t=1772
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2006 15:29:42 GMT -5
I said I am not going to debate this issue endlessly. So that was a lie.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 26, 2006 15:36:09 GMT -5
Touche'
I guess I was just proving that I wasn't alone in thinking that people other than Gator fans might care a bit, as opposed to RDF's asssrtion to the contrary.
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Post by RDF on Dec 26, 2006 15:59:22 GMT -5
Touche' I guess I was just proving that I wasn't alone in thinking that people other than Gator fans might care a bit, as opposed to RDF's asssrtion to the contrary. Listen Edited bag--I will explain it in ENGLISH--which isn't spoken down in Hillbilly part of country so listen up close and you'll learn something--well you won't but maybe someone will figure out your ignorant Southern Hillbilly behind should be BANNED 1. Reggie Ball talk in this thread is about College FOOTBALL. 2. Ball is a COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER 3. Ball's performance influenced Calvin Johnson's performance 4. Reggie Nelson's mother dying means nothing to THIS site 5. Ohio State is playing Florida--they might care--we are not playing Florida and don't care 6. Nobody has responded because 3/4 of this site have you on the IGNORED list you ignorant Southern Edited. 7. It really bugs you that nobody cares and that I specifically have told you that I don't care and would rather you have died. 8. I'd wager more people would agree with me on your potential death being a plus then caring about Reggie Nelson's mom fate. This is a GEORGETOWN HOYA site-not Ohio State, not Florida, and more importantly, not your personal site. I've never bashed you when you stay on topic and I'm more then unbiased when it comes to things on topic--the rules of the board don't allow name calling either--but you call out Buffalo and have since you've joined this board--well I'm going to do the same since he contributes to this site and is a member who shares common interests--he's "Family". You are a troll who can't help himself but to get off topic. You view this as your own personal forum and then spew bullcrap toward members here--who whether others like them or agree with everything they say, do stay on topic and follow the rules. As long as you're allowed to post meaningless, drivel, then I'm going to berate you, and attack you. Minute you are on topic--I've never said a thing. It's really simple--well for people of basic intelligence, which you've clearly proven you have none. I'm expecting no response too--because as you said "you don't want this to be talked about endlessly". I never stated that, so I will continue to bash you and anything related to this. I actually hope Reggie Nelson is so grief stricken he ends up not playing and Gators get humiliated--and watch your fanbase and morons like yourself whine and complain about her death--which you will do and I'm going to call this out right now--if Gators lose Hifi's "tickets to game" fell through and he wasn't able to make it-if they win--he was there "with last minute great seats provided by Reggie Nelson's mother's ghost" or some ignorant hillbilly crap he spews about every 5 posts. I call BS on you--you are a FRAUD. I don't believe you go to the games. I don't believe you do anything but watch, like rest of us. If you don't like it--tough. If you want to PM me like last time when your feelings were "hurt" I didn't believe you, fire away but I think you are a giant fraud who lives his entire life through the Florida Gators and honestly share Brasky's sentiments toward the continuance of oxygen you waste. Anxiously await your response--oh that's right you can't due to your time wasted already. Go ahead and break some more rules--you know you will and can't resist. That is why you are hated, nobody responds, and you need to link us to an OHIO STATE site to prove my point for me--which is that you are BREAKING OUR BOARD RULES, you are NOT ON TOPIC in THIS THREAD, and you are a moron. Thanks for doing my job for me and anxiously await your next waste of time post that isn't on topic.
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 26, 2006 16:46:37 GMT -5
It must be nice to be so into one's self that you can call another a hillbilly and refer to his section of the country hillbilly country. I think your response to hifigator is way over the top and represents nothing more than personal insults. Despite what anyone may think of hifigator's posts it does not warrant this sort of personal attacks. One man's opinion.
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