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Post by reformation on Sept 10, 2005 22:32:04 GMT -5
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 11, 2005 15:25:22 GMT -5
Good to see that. Good find, reformation. I didn't even know that Colleen was gone, considering that she was just name DC athlete of the year for 2005.
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Post by dc800 on Sept 12, 2005 16:11:39 GMT -5
Actually Miltenberg has been coaching there for the past year if you read the article.
Any knowledge on where Juli Henner will be coaching next?
Any thought on the women's teams hopes for this season? I think its a long shot that they will even make Nationals- considering they didn't make it last year even with seniors Nicole Lee and Jodee Adams-Moore, both strong distance runners, on the team. This year they are returning only one strong distance runner- Infeld. Henry, Malcolm and Grelli haven't to my knowledge broken 18 minutes in the 5k and are the teams only other returning distance runners.
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Post by 37th and O on Sept 12, 2005 19:23:15 GMT -5
Yes, anyword on Juli Henner? I'm sure she was just edged out for the Stanford job....actually I read on letsrun.com that Columbia was a possible destination. That didn't pan out either. Anyone think she was in the mix at Oregon? Well, Lannana got that one. I'd love to hear an update!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 13, 2005 12:03:25 GMT -5
I haven't heard any thing about Juli, after an initial flurry of rumors about Stanford. I hope she finds a good position.
The women's fortunes will rely IMHO on the frosh this year. Maggie is a solid #1, although she is more a middle distance runner. GU has been led in XC by mid-distance types in the past, mainly Miesha M. and Treniere C., so I think Maggie, as a soph, has taken on that mantle. Natasha L. ran well in the open meet, but the twins from Canada were held out. I expect them to contribute soon, because I don't think the Hoyas can afford to redshirt either of them. If Elizabeth Maloy is healthy, that could make the difference between an NCAA bid and missing it again. She didn't run in the first meet, so I hope she is still not injured. Maybe we have to wait until next year, before the Hoyas return to their normal place in the XC wars.
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Post by dc800 on Sept 14, 2005 8:39:48 GMT -5
Juli Henner accepted an assistant coaching position with JMU. They just hired former Stanford coach Andy Gerard as the head coach so I think it's a good move on her part considering how well the Stanford teams have done.
She must be relieved she won't have to coach with Helmer anymore.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 14, 2005 12:16:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, dc. It sounds as if she and coach Helmer didn't get along too well. It is not bad going back to your alma mater.
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Post by Chicken 1 on Sept 14, 2005 19:19:09 GMT -5
Juli Henner accepted an assistant coaching position with JMU. They just hired former Stanford coach Andy Gerard as the head coach so I think it's a good move on her part considering how well the Stanford teams have done. She must be relieved she won't have to coach with Helmer anymore. I'm not sure what to make about your comment. Let's be real, Julie Henner was hired several years ago to appease her husband, during her tenure she brought little to the program. If you read between the lines...it appears that she left under a cloud. The idea that she would be suggested as a viable candidate for Stanford is laughable. Being named an assistant coach at JMU is just about her speed. Couldn't get along with Helmer? I say too bad. Coach Helmer is a gentleman, excellent representative of the university, and throughout his tenure has done a top notch job but his job appears to get more difficult with the facilities issues. Good bye Julie!! |
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Post by dc800 on Sept 15, 2005 8:31:57 GMT -5
I respect your opinion, and I don't think Juli was perfect. But having worked with him before, I know that R. Helmer is a terrible coach.
I could make a long list of talented, dedicated runners that have been driven away from the program because of his attitude, comments and manner of coaching. He coaches with a negative mindset and openly chooses favorites. He makes all kinds of inapproporiate comments to women on the team about their weight. He belittles and makes fun of individuals in front of the team. Ask ANY runner on the team, male or female, what they think of him and you will get your answer. I could go on but it's not worth my time.
I love Georgetown and I love the track team there, but it is very difficult to support the program with such a sorry excuse for a coach.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 15, 2005 14:58:29 GMT -5
I am not liking what I am hearing about the coaching. The track and field team has a difficult enough situation with the lack of facilities. If they have to put up with a difficult situation with the coaching, it will be hard to continue to recruit well and have a top notch program. Be aware that I know nothing about the coaching situation. I knew that Coach Gags was well loved by the athletes. I even had a chance to speak to him on the phone, when I recommended a track and field athlete from my son's HS. I knew of no dissension in the current regime until now.
This is not an unknown situation in the history of GU track and field, since there was a student-athlete "revolt" against Coach Steve Benedek in the late '60's, led by national class 5000m runner Steve Stageberg. Coach Benedek was the track coach, while I was there, and he was also our PE instructor. He even tried (admittedly half-heartedly) to recruit me for the high jump. (I could jump high, but not over a bar ;D). So I got along well with him, as did my uncle, who was moderator of the track team in those days. However, Coach Benedek, being of Hungarian origin, was a task master, and subscribed to the Hungarian system (see Coach Igloi and his methods), which was a hard regiment. Anyway, he was eventually replaced, by, I believe, Coach Lang.
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Post by Chicken 1 on Sept 15, 2005 19:35:31 GMT -5
I'll say this...
Francis X. Gagliano is the greatest coach in Georgetown history. He was well loved by his athletes and he built a truly national program on the hilltop. They should name the Big East Track and Field Championship Trophy after him. One important thing that he did do was bring Ron Helmer to GU to take the women's program. Throughout the 90's they (Coach Gagliano and Coach Helmer) were a formidable duo.
dc800, you can make a list of former (current?) athletes who have been "driven away" from the program, I bet I can make one three times as long that have prospered under his direction. I also believe that your summative critique of his coaching style is off the mark.
Coach Helmer is not the problem with GU Track and Field. It's the lack of facilities.
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Post by alum95 on Oct 15, 2005 20:50:09 GMT -5
Edited. Avoid posting personal information on coaches or their families.-Admin
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 7, 2006 18:59:46 GMT -5
Juli Henner accepted an assistant coaching position with JMU. They just hired former Stanford coach Andy Gerard as the head coach so I think it's a good move on her part considering how well the Stanford teams have done. She must be relieved she won't have to coach with Helmer anymore. Actually, Julie is coaching at George Mason. gomason.collegesports.com/sports/m-track/spec-rel/091205aab.html |
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