QB IS NOT THE PROBLEM

[crimsonhoya]

I dont understand all the fuss about replacing signal callers. Our QB's are mediocre Patriot League athletes and throwers. Put them on a Colgate or Lehigh and they would average above normal stats, put them on a Laf. they would average normal stats, put them on Gtown......

We have the worst offensive line since the inaugural PL season and our WR's would not even start on my Freshman intramural flag football squad. This may seem like a flippant comment, but it has some truth. Two of the WR's, both seniors, played against my floor in in IM football and they were both shutdown by nonathletes. There is no talent there. In fact, excluding Sarin, QB is probably our biggest asset on that side of the ball. You can't put up better #'s than 5-15 when nobody is open and when you have to chuck on your 3rd step back.

If people want to indulge in the blame game, you might want to start with individuals who have been calling the plays and recruiting the players.

[GUHoya07]

I do agree that we have to stop making such a big deal out of the QB issue. This is a lot bigger than the guy taking the snaps. The entire offense is playing like crap and it is absurd for us to sit around and argue over who should start at QB when it doesn't really matter.

As long as the offense as a whole is playing so terribly there is no reason to even discuss the QB. This problem is a lot bigger than one man, the offense needs to come together and start playing as a team.

[gahoya]

Clearly these posts were written by Allen's friends who don't play football, or his family, because anyone that knows anything about football would realize that Keith is a good practice player, but clearly is an aweful game player. Thats just the way it is! He's had 3 chances! The only thing that I can get out of this is that the O-coordinator has some sort of favoritism that he is playing, because if he wants his job back next year he needs to score at least 1 touchdown a game and that wont be possible if Allen is playing (unless you are counting touchdowns for the other team, because he is clearly good at that, averaging 1 per game)! Hey Uzelac replace Allen, or resign, because your AWEFUL!

[GUHoya07]

It is one thing for you to voice your opinion, but it is a shame that you immediately make up some BS about us being family or friends. I don't even know what Keith Allan looks like without a football helmet on and I certainly am not related to the guy.

If you want to say that Allan and partially the offensive coordinator are the only ones to blame for the offense's shortcomings then fine, but stop being an idiot who thinks that anyone who doesn't blame Allan for the entire offense playing like crap is related to him.

[guest5]

The fuss over signal callers?! Jesus, man. That could be up there with one of the dumbest comments I've ever heard. The fuss over signal callers is this: when Gtown has a good quarterback, who the team is confident with, they are a good team. Look no further than Ward, Mont, and even Paulus. The team wins when they have a quarterback who is confident in his own ability, leads the team, has knowledge of the system, and can balance his own ability with what he is taught. Even with Peterson, a struggling 2001 team (that initial year in the Patriot League you mention) was confident with the fact that they knew their quarterback had ability to deliver and possessed a firm knowledge of the system. And the horrible line you mention: ever since the 1999 season, the oline has been blamed for every failure in georgetown athletics! With Paulus in 2002: despite a struggling oline, he made stuff happen. I know that this group is not as good as the Eagles' line, but they are making progress. For instance, Goethals is a high quality center and athlete (I am neither related to him nor am I his roommate). When there are center-QB problems like I saw at Lafayette, read about in Duquesne, and heard today, I would be willing to bet my money that it's not Goethal's fault. Sure, the o-line is in need of a Robert Quigley-esque bruiser/leader, but I'm sure that the bulk of the blame does not rest with them! I don't know who they have left at QB, but this kid isn't getting it done. Put Crawford back in for the rest of the season I say.

From what I can tell, the problem seems to start with playcalling. I know Bob Benson is as dedicated as they come and has excellent defensive knowledge. I know Sgarlata does his best to prepare everyone, even though he might not have played the position he's coaching. But this Uzelac guy?! I thought he was supposed to know what he's doing. Clearly something is not clicking, and they need to go back to the drawing board. All I know is that bad stuff is happening in the program, and it might not be nice to do, but some people are accountable. Terrazino, Goethals, Cummings, and Riley are solid linemen. Slayton and Sarrin are good Rb's. Saunders and whoever else are good receivers (despite being outplayed by your intramural team). I know Crawford has the ability and the knowledge. So something is not right and something needs to be done fast! Maybe bring back Coach Bres!!

[DFW HOYA]

Here's another view on QBs (and agreed, O-line is not the problem):

There was talk earlier in the thread that today's QB's arent Ward or Mont. What Bill and JJ had was experience, and that's what is driving the staff to try to stay wirth Allan. In recent years, GU has bailed on the younger QBs, gone with the senior, got a few wins, then started all over again the next year.

In 2001, Georgetown wanted to go with Dave Paulus, he struggled, and in came Sean Peterson.

In 2002, Morgan Booth started the season at QB, then he was out, then back to Crawford, then back to Paulus. [Corrected.]

In 2003, Alondzo Turner was the new QB, but then they went with Crawford.

Now in 2004, it's 2002 all over again. If Peterson takes over for the rest of the season, fine, but then you open 2005 with no veteran QB and the same problems are back again.

At some point, GU needs to get some young QB in there and get some experience. Let's see what Cangelosi can do for a few games.

[crimsonhoya]

Well, for those who say Crawford is the savior, I hope you realize he was 0-4 with 0 yards today against Colgate's 2nd defense. And 11-20 against the worst team in 1-AA is not something to rest on your laurels with.

I never said 0-line was the sole reason for the absence of movement. Id point more to the WR's. I think our women's club softball team has more athleticism.

Right now, id give Cangelosi an entire game and see what develops. The bottom line: Gtown will be highly fortunate to go 3-8 this year. It's worth starting Cangelosi. What's the difference between going 2-9 and 3-8? We are still at best a souped-up club football team. We arent talking about missing out on BCS money for the school.

[guest5]

Yup, I agree that right now the record is not looking too good unless there are some major improvements across the whole team. It would be nice to see a winning season one of these years. Yea, I'm not saying that Crawford is the savior...but he has won a couple games at least. I just hope, like everyone else, that Gtown can get it together somehow.

DFW, sorry, I know you are up on your stuff most of the time, but I need to correct you. In 2001, Peterson was named the starter before the season. The offensive coordinator did not like Paulus, who was coming back from shoulder surgery and could not practice during spring ball. He did, however, put him in throughout the season sparingly at both wide receiver and quarterback. Peterson was the starter for the year though, and I believe he ended up being the mvp that year. In 2002, Peterson was not on the roster; he graduated earlier in the spring. Don't ask me why Paulus was not the clear starter before the 2002 season (or 2001 for that matter). Coaches probably had their heads up their a$$e$. Booth out, Crawford in, he got injured. Thank God Paulus finally came off the bench (basically only due to injury/benching the other qb's) and resurrected the 2002 season.

[Go Hoyas]

Here's the thing...not sure that Crawford would fair any better but one certainly make the argument that he couldn't do much worse. If we play Crawford the balance of the year then next year we're faced with Allen or Cangelosi again with no experience. Against Lafayette, Allen played reasonably well. Good performance or not against Dusquene and Colgate we're getting rolled anyway, just overmatched. These upcoming games are really the test because these teams are at our level. We have to be patient with first year QB's. That's all there is. I stay with Allen.

[HoyaFanatic]

That last post was a joke. I have nothing against allan, but lets be realistic, his performance in the lafayette game was terrible. His interception for a touchdown was the deciding factor and his statistics for that game were pitiful.

There is no way he can stay as the starting qb. After three games, that obviously did not turn out well, he still hasnt even learned something as simple as throwing the ball away when he is out of the pocket.

And to be honest, Crawford or Cangelosi could go 0-1000 and it would be better than a Qb that gives the other team points and turns the ball over continuosly.

Crawford needs to be back in. There is reason for springball; time for younger players to develop. No need to throw the season away to gain experience with younger guys.

[thebin]

I don't agree fanatic. Unless you have a standout, and we don't, go with the youth to build for the future. If Allen is not getting the job done, go with the younger guys. It sucks that we are still building for the future, but honestly this season is just about a wash in September. Depressing I know. But I don't really care if we win one or two more games if are back at square one next year with the signal caller. Does anyone think its even possible we win 3 more games this year? No chance.

Don't get me wrong- the best players deserve to play, but its gotta be clear that the players are BETTER. Is it clear here? Not at all.

[GUHoya07]

Allan is the younger guy, unless you go with Cangelosi who is the youngest guy. Allan is a soph I believe and Cangelosi is a freshman.

[david]

Cangelosi is also a Sophomore, b/c he transferred from UNC

[GUHoya07]

Are you sure about that? I'm quite positive that he redshirted at UNC and thus would have 4 years of eligibility left. I guess he's a sophomre by class but he has 4 years of eligibility I believe.

[david]

he is listed as a sophomore on the football site.

[LBPop2]

Nick Cangelosi is in his second year of college, but he reshirted at UNC last year. This is his first year of eligibility.

[david]

that is great -- sorry, my mistake. it would be nice to give the freshman cangelosi some PT to let him show us what he can do.

[GUHoya07]

Yeah, even though its not typically a great idea to be changing up qbs every few games I also think Cangelosi should get a chance to start this Saturday and show everyone what he's got.

However, there are other issues that need to be resolved with this team as well. I'm no expert so Im not gonna make any claims that I know what is going wrong, but it has to be more than just the quarterback.

[TXHOYA]

Lets face it, you play how you practice, and fact of the matter is half of the starting offense sits out of practice two to three times of week with injuries (Especially WR's and RB's, and OL) You can't get better when the guys playing on Saturday are on the sidelines during the week.

[Guest]

Yes I believe Cangelosi should get the nod. Even if he's not fluid with the offense. But, the big problem is "the offensive scheme". Uzilak is running up hill. You can't run a drag option with a 140lb RB and 150lb QB that can't throw on the run (or in the pocket for that matter). You need a fast strong o-line for that offensive scheme also. They are going to need to open up that offense and find some recievers to wing it to. And that is where Cangelosi comes in. He is a pro-style QB, not an option QB. G-Towns only chance of being competative in the PL is going to be "no-huddle" put them on their heels kinda pass party (that will open up your run a little). Cangelosi is the best guy for that job. He is 6'4", 215 with a quick-release gun. That is what got him all his D-1 offers 2 years ago.