GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 14, 2004 22:44:25 GMT -5
Roy actually turned 18 this past saturday. The student section sang happy birthday to him at the game.
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Post by Grandpa on Dec 14, 2004 23:17:34 GMT -5
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Dec 15, 2004 10:13:17 GMT -5
One important note about the Rainbow Classic. Princeton has done well in these kinds of tournaments, where the 2nd and 3rd opponents have no time to prepare for or practice against the offense. UAB and Clemson, in particular, look like teams that would give up backdoors.
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Dec 15, 2004 18:04:08 GMT -5
And, theoretically, the Hoyas should be less tired than UAB at the end of it all because of the Princeton offense and UAB's love for pushing the ball. Hopefully 3 straight days of fatigue will lessen their discpline and get us some extra open looks and easy baskets.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 15, 2004 18:18:57 GMT -5
One other factor to consider. lots of kids -- basketball and football, especially on non-WAC teams that rarely play the UH -- are so awed by the surroundings, the weather, the Aloha spirit in the people, the beaches, the hotties, that they are severly distracted and don't play well. the UH has a huge advantage. For them, they are home, they are used to this, and they get to show the mainlanders they can play too.
Not sure who that will help (other than UH) or who it will hurt, but it frequently has an impact.
Saxacd and I will be in attendance and between the two of us, we'll be sure to file some additional reports.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Dec 15, 2004 19:48:57 GMT -5
Good point. I read somewhere that UH has won the last five Rainbow Classics.... that probably has something to do with the "wow" factor, although I think it also speaks to an inability to bring in a good field of competition (a number of news outlets have reported that this year's pool of competitors is a big step up).
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 15, 2004 20:44:20 GMT -5
I also wonder how the match-ups were determined. It strikes me as odd that the teams (other than Hawaii) that figured to be the three strongest entrants this year all ended up on the opposite side of the bracket from Hawaii.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 15, 2004 21:11:07 GMT -5
Why would it be odd that the best teams are in a different bracket than the host team? Host teams always do that- for example look at the Capital Classic: Maryland put Michigan State in the other bracket and faced teh weakest opponent first: Georget Mason. The host team wants a shot at winning their tournament-not to get knocked out in the first round by the best/2nd best team.
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Post by Goldeneagle on Dec 15, 2004 21:14:28 GMT -5
Probably more important than the brackets is "How did they choose these squads to play at this tournament?" Oh yeah, does anyone know why Ewing Jr. didn't go here? The Aloha spirit might mess with us landlocked landlubbers out in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And a couple other things: ORU was recently featured on ESPN.com. Check it out: sports.espn.go.com/ncb/indexFinally, although we won't be able to watch the game, we'll be able to listen to it here: www.kkea1420am.com/
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 15, 2004 22:38:57 GMT -5
I just think Ewing Jr. decided to do what he wanted to rather than coming here simply because he was expected to. Maybe there would have been too much pressure on him coming to the school where his father is the most legendary player in the school's history, who knows.
I dont know if anyone knows for sure why he didnt come, but I think it had to do with a number of things like I mentioned and possibly some more.
Maybe someone else can offer their opinion. I'm only a sophomore now so I wasn't following the team during his recruitment.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 16, 2004 12:24:10 GMT -5
TBird, I was being sarcastic in my "odd" reference, although I know sarcasm doesn't always come through in print. There can be no doubt that Hawaii set up the brackets in a way that would make it most likely for the home team to win the tournament. The one thing that I do truly think is odd, however, is UAB and Clemson playing in the first round. I guess the goal was, other than matching Hawaii with the weakest entrant, to come up with first round games that all appeared likely to be very competitive.
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Post by Goldeneagle on Dec 16, 2004 13:11:52 GMT -5
By the way, Hoyanick, for some reason, your link featuring the Hoyas highlights didn't seem to open. Do you or anyone else have any highlight links from the Illinois game?
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 16, 2004 13:12:28 GMT -5
My fault rooter-should have known by your 3 star status that you wouldn't be that naive.
Perhaps the attempt at making competitive matchups is their attempt to make their tournament more attractive, both to prospective teams and fans/TV audiences. While the field isn't stacked w/ top line schools, it does have a pretty solid middle of the pack lineup. All of these schools are either on the bubble or near the bubble. I think this is probably necessary in order to draw teams, b/c what's the point of spending all the money for a trip to Hawaii if you're going to be playing schools that you could get to come to your home court? Or if you could go to a closer tournament and play better teams?
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 16, 2004 13:24:25 GMT -5
goldeneagle- any highlights that are available should be found at this link to the athletics website. hoyanick's link worked for me, but maybe thats only because I have the file saved on my computer already. If you do watch the Illinois highlight video there is one mistake, the final score should be 74-59, not 74-56 ;D, our sports information department isn't exactly the greatest. Also, its only highlights of our good plays, so don't expect to learn too much from these videos, they are still entertaining though and you'll be able to see what some of our players look like. www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-baskbl/gu-m-baskbl-body.html
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Post by TigerHoya on Dec 16, 2004 15:33:28 GMT -5
I read when the field was announced that they were going for teams from the past including teams that had won the tourney before. Clemson won it in 1980.
It remains to be seen whether the Tigers will finish better than expected this year (many fans think so) but at the time the game was scheduled they probably didn't think it would be competitive based on the Shyatt era in Tigertown.
Don't forget too that LSU was in the same bracket as the home team presumably too if they had set the brackets before they got out. It would have been GU-LSU in that scenario.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Dec 16, 2004 15:46:00 GMT -5
I had thought that Indiana State was the replacement for LSU, but was it Oral Roberts?
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