PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 16, 2010 16:09:01 GMT -5
in the past 48 hours, i have been in contact with BOTH oliver stone and jack bauer and we have uncovered IRREFUTABLE proof that there is a conspiracy against our program.
consider the FACTS:
1. there is no way tennessee is a 6 seed. 25-8. rpi #14. polls #14. beat kansas AND kentucky. at worst they are a 5 seed but are more like a 4. they played us last year, beat use handily and KNOWS OUR SYSTEM. clearly, this was a deliberate selection. clearly, the committee is giving us THE most difficult game for a 3-seed in the history of the NCAA tournament!
2. as for the next round, of all the 2 seeds, we have already shown that we can beat nova. and if our shooting werent cold, we would have killed wvu. and between kansas st and ohio state, of course the committee gave us thad matta who has played us TWICE already and won once and KNOWS OUR SYSTEM. SEE A PATTERN??? clearly, the committee is giving us the toughest sweet 16 matchup they could!
3. should we make the elite 8, the pattern continues!!! we already schooled duke and Syracuse. and between kansas and kentucky, of course we get the team that is bigger and more experienced, is playing a virtual home game in st. louis and no where near our turf in syracuse. clearly, the committee does not want us to make the final 4!
still not a believer??? Well you know who the refs designated for the elite 8 game are? The same dudes that reffed the east regional finals against UNC!!! (ok, me oliver and jack did not fact check this one but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened!) and we wont have rowdy east coast fans to save us.
now, you might ask why there is a conspiracy against us? who would benefit the most?
ANSWER: DUKE
consider the FACTS:
1. duke is a program in decline, only able to recruit unathletic, mediocre players.
2. if we were to make another run to the final 4, can you imagine how HOT we would be on the recruiting trail! The last time that happened, we landed any and every recruit we wanted. can you imagine the hoya dynasty for the next several decades! III would be the next wooden. clearly, in order for duke to survive as a program, the hoyas must not be allowed to take their rightful place at the top of college basketball.
3. ever since we slaughtered duke and unc, and when we landed MONROE over duke, there has been a fierce negative campaign waged against us on the recruiting trail. attacks on our style of play, etc. they cant risk having the upstart thompson III upsetting the powers that be.
4. duke is in no way a 1 seed. even for their non-athletic arses they have a cakewalk to the elite 8. guerrero talked out his arse when he said they looked at the body of work for the full season, then emphasized duke winning the acc tournament. by that measure wofford should be a 1 seed. the acc is about as strong as the socon. duke didnt even win their conference outright. duke as a 1 seed is a travesty.
5. the 2 seed in dukes bracket is nova. Haven’t they lost like their last 7 games in a row?! they should be a 3 or 4 seed. clearly, the committee wants to grease dukes path to the final 4.
clearly, this is one of the most scandalous selections commitees in history. it would have been brilliant if the conspiracy were not so obvious. Boys get out there and kick some arse. Beat the system! Watch those fouls. I call for a revolution!
p.s. does this break any board rules?
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cnyhoya
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Post by cnyhoya on Mar 16, 2010 16:17:26 GMT -5
The protection of Duke is to keep the TV ratings up.
Did this need a new thread?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 16, 2010 16:17:57 GMT -5
Please pass some of that good stuff! ;D ;D ;D
Kidding aside, given our recent history there, I wouldn't want our team playing anywhere near Syracuse.
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Post by tjm62 on Mar 16, 2010 16:23:45 GMT -5
I think there may be some desire to help Duke a little bit, but I don't really think there's a vendetta about Georgetown. A few thoughts:
1. You can't both criticize the committee for pairing us with coaches that "know our system" (i.e. Tennessee, OSU, etc.) and then criticize them for separating us from the teams we have already beaten (Duke, Nova, Cuse, etc.) who ostensibly would also "know our system".
2. Tennessee is not as good as you say. They are #35 on Kenpom with an offense efficiency ranked all the way at #99 in Division 1 (in comparison, ours is #10). And whereas they did beat KU and UK , they're 2-5 against the RPI top FIFTY -- including losing two to Kentucky (and, in the conference tournament, getting absolutely blown out). Their only other win against a tourney team? Edging a crappy Florida team at home. Their best road win was Memphis.
3. Any construed bias against Georgetown could just as easily be construed as bias against Kansas (indeed, much of the analysis of the Midwest has focused on KANSAS/OSU getting the short end of the stick).
4. Yes, we got a tough seeding, especially given the fact that we played very well in the Big East Tournament. But you know what, we had 10 losses (including 5-5 over our last ten). That's THREE more losses than Villanova with the same number of Big East Wins. Ultimately, it was losing winnable games to Rutgers and USF that cost us our spot in a better bracket. Villanova's losses, except for Uconn, were all to tournament teams, and except for WVU, were all on the road.
5. Duke won the regular and conference crown of a BCS conference. They have 29 wins, no losses outside the RPI top 100, are #3 in RPI and #1 in Kenpom rankings. Their strength of schedule was #8 in the country. They are clearly the softest one seed, but it is not as unreasonable as we might think.
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Mar 16, 2010 16:30:38 GMT -5
p.s. does this break any board rules? If it does, then it just proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the mods are in league with duke, cbs, or the selection committee.
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momzer
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Post by momzer on Mar 16, 2010 16:43:58 GMT -5
On Cowherd, it said that the NCAA/CBS are in cohoots to give Duke as much exposure as possible, since they are the equivalent of "America's Team.". You either love them or hate them, so by putting them in the softest bracket, they have the best chance to move forward. My question is whether the refs are given the same directives to "help" move them forward, much like they do at Cameron for EVERY game this year. If Duke is their darling for ratings, losing them in a close game would hurt their ratings. I agree with Colin that that is why they get preferential treatment, which only leads to the conclusion that the treatment extends to the game itself. Saving grace would be that if Pitino plays them in 2nd round, he will at least try to keep refs honest. Oh, and by the way, BUM is the ugliest man that ever graduated from DOOK.
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cnyhoya
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Post by cnyhoya on Mar 16, 2010 17:05:33 GMT -5
On Cowherd, it said that the NCAA/CBS are in cohoots to give Duke as much exposure as possible, since they are the equivalent of "America's Team.". You either love them or hate them, so by putting them in the softest bracket, they have the best chance to move forward. My question is whether the refs are given the same directives to "help" move them forward, much like they do at Cameron for EVERY game this year. If Duke is their darling for ratings, losing them in a close game would hurt their ratings. I agree with Colin that that is why they get preferential treatment, which only leads to the conclusion that the treatment extends to the game itself. Good point. And probably.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 16, 2010 19:17:25 GMT -5
Does someone know why Duke gets to play the winner of the play-in game when they are not the highest #1?
Pope forgot to include this as another advantage to help Duke advance. Get Winthrop/Ark.PB winner nice and tired and give Coach Kryskewskieksy a chance to study the opponent.
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hoyaalf
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Post by hoyaalf on Mar 16, 2010 19:27:09 GMT -5
Of course, it stands to reason or something.
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 16, 2010 19:34:03 GMT -5
I assume you are a descendant of Jonathan Swift. If so, well done. If not, I recommend you continue to take your meds.
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Post by jgalt on Mar 16, 2010 19:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 16, 2010 19:52:49 GMT -5
Does someone know why Duke gets to play the winner of the play-in game when they are not the highest #1? Pope forgot to include this as another advantage to help Duke advance. Get Winthrop/Ark.PB winner nice and tired and give Coach Kryskewskieksy a chance to study the opponent. Because the winner of that game gets to play on Friday and Duke is the highest #1 seed playing on Friday.
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 16, 2010 20:18:32 GMT -5
you know AWFUL lot of coincidencse here as pope says just saying awful lot of conincidences here.. and was i dreaming or was that cahill in our big east champioinship that let west va center HAMMER greg and get us out of our game without calling the fouls till like 9 minutes to go in the game not sure but kinda looked like him just saying GO HOYAS DO WHATEVER AND THEY WILL HAVE TO COME ON BOARD THE TRAIN. does seem every body is saying that duke bracket NUMBER ONE SEED come on what was there on the road record??? that bracket is the sweet one adn the midwest as they say the bracket of death and thats MOST commentators not gu guys OH WELL tis what it is for sure just win each game one by one by at least one and have some fun SHOW THEM WE ARE GEORGETOWN YUP WE ARE ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 16, 2010 20:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Mar 16, 2010 20:35:42 GMT -5
Does someone know why Duke gets to play the winner of the play-in game when they are not the highest #1? Pope forgot to include this as another advantage to help Duke advance. Get Winthrop/Ark.PB winner nice and tired and give Coach Kryskewskieksy a chance to study the opponent. Because the winner of that game gets to play on Friday and Duke is the highest #1 seed playing on Friday. Ahhh! At what time is their game? I'm guessing prime time for Dook.
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Post by tinker89 on Mar 16, 2010 21:13:45 GMT -5
Hoya paranoia for the new century....have to say, Duke is as good a target as any.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 16, 2010 21:18:59 GMT -5
These NCAA seeding committees are very suspect. For example, in the NCAA women's soccer seedings, the University of Portland was ranked 2nd or 3rd in the country after the regular season this year. Guess what seed they got in the tournament - #2 in the west, with UCLA #1. They ended up playing AT UCLA in the elite eight and lost a close game. This lack of respect for their team has gone back the past four or five years. UP surprised the committee by winning it all a couple of years ago, in spite of low seedings. This could be a model for the Hoyas. Heck with the committee and win every game. GO HOYAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 16, 2010 21:41:05 GMT -5
a few points as some are clearly still among the great unwashed masses who refuse to see the truth:
1. dont confuse helping duke with hurting georgetown. yes they obviously want to help duke but they ALSO want to hurt georgetown. its one thing to give duke an irrationally easy path, its entirely another to give us a irrationally dificult one. the aforemention motive and confluence of conincidences PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that the conspiracy is real!
2. and this just in from oliver, do you think crean going so hard after moses is just another unrelated event? tsk tsk tsk. crean's assistant, mcleod, used to play for who??? thats right, coach K and DUKE! crean and duke are in cahoots. so yeah he just fired mcleod a few days ago, but that was just a ruse to throw us off the trail. and you think its just a coincidence that rivers when to play for crean?
when the world stops making sense theres usually a good reason. in this case, all fingers point to duke. but i suspect there is an even greater evil lurking behind it all...stay tuned.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 16, 2010 22:49:12 GMT -5
On Cowherd, it said that the NCAA/CBS are in cohoots to give Duke as much exposure as possible, since they are the equivalent of "America's Team.". You either love them or hate them, so by putting them in the softest bracket, they have the best chance to move forward. My question is whether the refs are given the same directives to "help" move them forward, much like they do at Cameron for EVERY game this year. If Duke is their darling for ratings, losing them in a close game would hurt their ratings. I agree with Colin that that is why they get preferential treatment, which only leads to the conclusion that the treatment extends to the game itself. Good point. And probably. Not a Duke lover, but did Cowchips explain why Duke hasn't gotten past the sweet sixteen since '02?
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Post by momzer on Mar 16, 2010 23:20:54 GMT -5
Wrestle: No he didn't, but his excuse for their seeding was TV rating related. I guess when you suck, even with three zebras helping you, you still can't find your way in the dark.
LICHOYA; That wasn't Cahill. That was his lookalike McDermott or something. And I do agree that he certainly let Greg get beat up in the first half without any calls. He must be a drinking buddy of Cahill's.
Just as an aside: Does Dook have any chance in Houston, assuming they make it that far of beating either TexA&M or Baylor? I don't think so.
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