Northeast DC Campus?

Yes. The entire FL ave market area and surrounding neighborhoods around Galludet would be excellent locations. Not just the H street street car going to GU (although thats going to be the slowest public transportation ever), but that is also an area of DC that is growing.

Currently it is still a pretty bad area but the DC governemnt is trying to bring business to the area. Additionally, that is the ONLY place still within DC limits that we could find enough land for buildings and maybe some athletic fields.

EDIT: More on the street car. It will be traveling slower then buses, even with their stops. As much as I am excited to see, I am dreading the traffic it will cause and the fact that it won't be useful for going more then a couple of blocks unless you want to take all day traversing DC. Especially for the areas that they plan to do mixed-traffic (like M street?!?!?!!!)

Medstar has made signals that it wants to annex North Kehoe (and although they won't say it, it could conceivably overtake into Yates as well) to build a new hospital that would replace the current 535 bed hospital (built 1947) within the overall medical center.

Three problems:
1. North Kehoe isn't under their jursidiction, so GU would have to cede the land. It took away the baseball field, so that's a precedent.
2. Resident pushback would be severe, even under the guise of "it'll be farther back on campus", but anything directly off Reservoir might be fine for some.
3. Such a decision all but forces soccer programs off campus because the MSF is too small to fit a soccer field.

A concurrent (even more ambitious) scenario is moving the entire hospital off-campus, maybe even in NE, opening up all that land on campus for redevelopment in the 2020's--dorms, classroms, athletics, whatever--somewhere around 10-15 acres of real estate. This, too, takes money--lots of it and there couls be pushback if it is too close to existing hospital facilities (Providence Hospital, Howard Univ Hospital, Washington Hospital Center, etc.)

Another scenario is building an athletics campus somewhere in the suburbs (or for this discussion, NE) which could host essentially all outdoor GU sports and perhaps build a field house (though not necessarily an arena) for intramurals and recreational sports. This, too, takes money--lots of it, though less than building a new hospital. But would people travel to Edgewood to swim, jog, or play pick-up basketball?

First of many questions--where do you find a parcel of land like that, and what happens to the price once someone thinks Georgetown wants to buy it?

Second question--what happens to the Medical School institutionally to be separated from the main campus?

Third: How much would DC support and/or contribute to get any of these projects to move forward? Being a friend of Georgetown is not always a winning campaign slogan in the wards.

Critical question: Would there be anywhere to put an arena on a NE campus?

Available for sale? AVAILABLE for sale? WE OWNED MOUNT VERNON COLLEGE. It was Georgetown's property and our administration gave it away!!

If I remember correctly, the financially doomed Mount Vernon College borrowed significant sums of money from Georgetown in the early 90s, putting its campus up as collateral for the loans. In late 1996/early 1997, instead of foreclosing on the property, Georgetown decided to float them until the end of the academic year so that the current seniors could graduate and then -- because Father Leo and gang didn't see how an all-female college would fit into the University's 'plans' -- transferred its claim to the Mount Vernon Campus to GWU for literally pennies on the dollar.

See also: WGTB, sold for a dollar to UDC and promptly resold on the free market to the highest bidder for tens of millions of dollars (and now worth about as much as the Mount Vernon Campus as WCSP).

I think DFW has the right version, yes. I was mixing my missed opportunities. The land that became the Cloisters as well as the land that became Hillandale was available for sale in the recent past, but Georgetown passed on both.

Passing on MVC sure seems like the worst administrative decision made by GU.

Yes and no.

The hospital losses were severe (cumulative deficits probably exceeded $300 million). Tim Healy did argue to sell the hospital in the 1980's, but the school stalled on it. The excessive debt load Georgetown now maintains (and the two credit downgrades it faced in the 2000's) are a direct result of holding to the hospital too long.

But here's the flip side--Georgetown is a national university (Tier I Carnegie) only because of medical research. Take out the research component and Georgetown doesn't qualify as a Tier I university. The medical center maintains Georgetown's Top 25 status and not be otherwise reclassififed as a regional university such as Villanova and Providence.

Umm, yeah.

In fact, if you look on Google maps, you'll see lots of space where some nice GU athletic venues could have been located. Like where the George Washington University Softball Field is located.

Going back to the original topic of the thread: Ken Archer's proposals - and I swear I don't mean this as an insult - typically read as if they are afflicted with Asperger's. He focuses in on certain technical details that he thinks hold the key to solving some problem, but completely misses the social, political, and community ramifications. It's not like he doesn't know they exist, but he seems unable to decode or understand them. I remember him plaintively wondering who Jack Evans was listening to on the question of Performance Parking in Georgetown. It makes perfect sense to Ken, and the couple of people he talked to seemed to be supportive, so clearly the Councilmember should be all for it, right? Right?

For the amount of political capital it would take to get something like this built (I should note that I'm not at all opposed to it, just don't see it happening), it would be better to go all-in on building a separated Blue Line.