PhillyHoya
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Post by PhillyHoya on Feb 9, 2009 23:09:14 GMT -5
Just heard from a current senior that Georgetown Day is basically dead. They scheduled a GAAP weekend for that day and don't want the festivities to be seen by pre-frosh and their parents. They are "looking" at rescheduling. Psh.
First Block Party, now this. Let the reminiscing commence.
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Post by washingtonhoya on Feb 10, 2009 1:18:14 GMT -5
Unacceptable. Georgetown Day will happen whether or not it's the official University celebration. A Georgetown Day on a Thursday three weeks before the end of the semester does not a true Georgetown Day make.
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Post by sead43 on Feb 10, 2009 7:29:27 GMT -5
"Damn the Man, Save Georgetown Day" Facebook group has 805 members overnight...and counting...
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Post by strummer8526 on Feb 10, 2009 9:02:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become.
I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious.
But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Feb 10, 2009 9:17:30 GMT -5
Then a GAAP weekend should not be scheduled the last friday of classes. It's as simple as that. Current students should take precedence over "maybe future" ones.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 10, 2009 9:34:37 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become. I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious. But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day. I call bull. Schick died in Spring term 2000. The first Georgetown day was in Spring 2002. Yes, Georgetown Day was arguably part of a larger initiative to tackle drinking on campus, which included the loss of Block Party, Homecoming, Toga Party, etc. But, I'd say it was also part of the initiative to rebuild campus morale after 9-11. I don't think you guys realize how weird it was on campus in the wake of the terrorist attacks. I'd say surreal is the best way to describe it. Campus didn't really get its mojo back for a long, long time. Georgetown Day was one of the many efforts the school undertook to try and lift morale.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 10, 2009 9:36:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become. I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious. But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day. I wasn't there for it, so a more experienced alum can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I believe there used to be a Block Party, basically an all-day drinkingfest at the block on N St between 36th and 37th on the last day of classes. The University ended up shutting it down (I'm not sure if a student death is related), and creating Georgetown Day in its place, I think in the early 2000s sometime. It would be too bad, because Georgetown Day developed into a nice tradition while I was there - free food, usually great weather, carnival-like entertainment, and of course, a lot of students getting drunk on the side during the day and enjoying the festivities. But it's not all about getting wasted, it's just a celebration of all that is Georgetown. Just poor scheduling. And even so, outside a few random drunk kids and possible visible parties on the rooftop, I think it can possibly make the school look good and more fun to applicants (although probably not to parents).
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Feb 10, 2009 9:40:16 GMT -5
Then a GAAP weekend should not be scheduled the last friday of classes. It's as simple as that. Current students should take precedence over "maybe future" ones. Here's the deal: Attracting the top prospective students is vital to the future of Georgetown in many ways, not least of which being its bond rating- Georgetown's high demand has been one of the key factors in keeping the place out of junk bond territory. Over the years, GAAP weekends have typically attracted nearly 1000 students and their families in the Spring, and typically around 70% of those students enroll, so you are talking about around half of each incoming class deciding to come to Georgetown at least in some part off of that experience. Unfortunately, there is simply insufficient space to host an extra 1000 or even 500 students and their families on campus while still having a functioning campus for the current students. So it is that GAAP must be done over 3 or, ideally, 4 weekends. As it happens, the calendar is not conducive to doing so this year- admissions decisions come out April 1, which does not leave enough time for people to plan to attend an open house on April 3. The following weekend is Easter. That leaves two weekends left in April to accomodate the bulk of the admitted students (EA admits can attend in late March). And Georgetown Day takes over both the spaces and volunteers needed to host an effective open house, so ultimately Georgetown Day needs to be moved to another day. I say all of this with full recognition that I would have flipped out if Block Party had been cancelled for a GAAP Open House when I was an undergrad.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 10, 2009 9:57:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become. I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious. But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day. I wasn't there for it, so a more experienced alum can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I believe there used to be a Block Party, basically an all-day drinkingfest at the block on N St between 36th and 37th on the last day of classes. The University ended up shutting it down (I'm not sure if a student death is related), and creating Georgetown Day in its place, I think in the early 2000s sometime. Wow, this is so, so sad. Block Party has been relegated to a distant memory, some question whether it ever existed in the first place...I am here to tell you that Block Party DID exist, and it was a fuggin blast. That smarmy little ass boil Dean Gonzalez did away with it in 2000 I believe...then did away with the true Homecoming tailgating event...then the REAL Champs closed down...then no more fun of any kind! Georgetown Day? ehhh.
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Post by thebin on Feb 10, 2009 10:02:10 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become. I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious. But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day. I call bull Edited. Schick died in Spring term 2000. The first Georgetown day was in Spring 2002. Yes, Georgetown Day was arguably part of a larger initiative to tackle drinking on campus, which included the loss of Block Party, Homecoming, Toga Party, etc. But, I'd say it was also part of the initiative to rebuild campus morale after 9-11. I don't think you guys realize how weird it was on campus in the wake of the terrorist attacks. I'd say surreal is the best way to describe it. Campus didn't really get its mojo back for a long, long time. Georgetown Day was one of the many efforts the school undertook to try and lift morale. I'm sure being on campus just after 9/11 was so much more trying that having to work every day in NYC just after 9/11. Chalk this one up in the "college kids have no idea how much worse their life is about to get" catagory for this crusty old man.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Feb 10, 2009 10:28:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know the history of Georgetown Day? Like that it was originally to celebrate community and sobriety after a student died in a drunken fight with another student. The coy pond is for the same kid. It's come a long way in order to reach the "Drink on the Lawn"-fest that it's become. I still enjoyed Georgetown Day and think that the Provost's Office is just trying to be obnoxious. But GAAP was scheduled WAY ahead of Georgetown Day. And for a lot of reasons, it is totally understandable not to want GAAP and Georgetown Day to be on the same day. I call bull Edited. Schick died in Spring term 2000. The first Georgetown day was in Spring 2002. Yes, Georgetown Day was arguably part of a larger initiative to tackle drinking on campus, which included the loss of Block Party, Homecoming, Toga Party, etc. But, I'd say it was also part of the initiative to rebuild campus morale after 9-11. I don't think you guys realize how weird it was on campus in the wake of the terrorist attacks. I'd say surreal is the best way to describe it. Campus didn't really get its mojo back for a long, long time. Georgetown Day was one of the many efforts the school undertook to try and lift morale. According to this article, www.thehoya.com/node/7530 2002 was actually the third Georgetown Day, meaning that it did start in 2000. 2000 was also the last Block Party- Georgetown administrators (pre-Gonzalez, in fact) did not support the Block Party in the wake of Schick's death, but it still occurred in slightly watered down fashion after some last minute political work by the organizers and Georgetown's ANC member Matt Payne. The next year Gonzalez came in and crushed any remaining Block Party support. Over time, Georgetown Day evolved from what seemed like kiddie carnival that no one I know really care about in 2000 to a kiddie carnival where kids drank somewhat surreptitiously and now think is the most important party of the year that could not possibly be held slightly earlier in the Spring.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 10, 2009 10:28:52 GMT -5
I call bull Edited. Schick died in Spring term 2000. The first Georgetown day was in Spring 2002. Yes, Georgetown Day was arguably part of a larger initiative to tackle drinking on campus, which included the loss of Block Party, Homecoming, Toga Party, etc. But, I'd say it was also part of the initiative to rebuild campus morale after 9-11. I don't think you guys realize how weird it was on campus in the wake of the terrorist attacks. I'd say surreal is the best way to describe it. Campus didn't really get its mojo back for a long, long time. Georgetown Day was one of the many efforts the school undertook to try and lift morale. I'm sure being on campus just after 9/11 was so much more trying that having to work every day in NYC just after 9/11. Chalk this one up in the "college kids have no idea how much worse their life is about to get" catagory for this crusty old man. Right cause DC wasn't attacked or anything and nobody on campus is from NYC/has friends or relatives there/or knew people who died. No, about half the students don't come from New York or New Jersey and no, half the graduating class doesn't move to NYC after they leave Georgetown. No, not at all...so we stupid college kids obviously couldn't understand your pain in New York at all. I guess our pain was nothing compared to yours because we were younger and only in DC just a mile from the Pentagon. I love you Bin, you know that, but that was a ill-thought, cynical, dick statement.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 10, 2009 10:33:07 GMT -5
I call bull Edited. Schick died in Spring term 2000. The first Georgetown day was in Spring 2002. Yes, Georgetown Day was arguably part of a larger initiative to tackle drinking on campus, which included the loss of Block Party, Homecoming, Toga Party, etc. But, I'd say it was also part of the initiative to rebuild campus morale after 9-11. I don't think you guys realize how weird it was on campus in the wake of the terrorist attacks. I'd say surreal is the best way to describe it. Campus didn't really get its mojo back for a long, long time. Georgetown Day was one of the many efforts the school undertook to try and lift morale. According to this article, www.thehoya.com/node/7530 2002 was actually the third Georgetown Day, meaning that it did start in 2000. 2000 was also the last Block Party- Georgetown administrators (pre-Gonzalez, in fact) did not support the Block Party in the wake of Schick's death, but it still occurred in slightly watered down fashion after some last minute political work by the organizers and Georgetown's ANC member Matt Payne. The next year Gonzalez came in and crushed any remaining Block Party support. Over time, Georgetown Day evolved from what seemed like kiddie carnival that no one I know really care about in 2000 to a kiddie carnival where kids drank somewhat surreptitiously and now think is the most important party of the year that could not possibly be held slightly earlier in the Spring. I certainly don't remember Georgetown Day in 2000, but I stand corrected. I really only remember it being a somewhat big event in 2002. Of course, I wasn't on campus Spring of 2001 so maybe I just missed it in 2000 and 2001. Block Party was the Edited. There will never be anything like it again. I weep for the current students.
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Post by thebin on Feb 10, 2009 10:43:44 GMT -5
I'm sure being on campus just after 9/11 was so much more trying that having to work every day in NYC just after 9/11. Chalk this one up in the "college kids have no idea how much worse their life is about to get" catagory for this crusty old man. Right cause DC wasn't attacked or anything and nobody on campus is from NYC/has friends or relatives there/or knew people who died. No, about half the students don't come from New York or New Jersey and no, half the graduating class doesn't move to NYC after they leave Georgetown. No, not at all...so we stupid college kids obviously couldn't understand your pain in New York at all. I guess our pain was nothing compared to yours because we were younger and only in DC just a mile from the Pentagon. I love you Bin, you know that, but that was a ill-thought, cynical, dick statement. Come on Cambridge, you really think being a student wandering around campus that week was much different than being an American walking around anytown usa that day? Everybody was in a funk the weeks after that day. I really don't think people who took the NYC subway to work (and had wives/husbands doing the same) were in quite the same boat as kids walking from Burleith to Lauinger. People who actually had to go to work in real target areas like manhattan and in/adjacent to the federal buildings of DC might have been putting up with a bit more stress than those on non-target university campuses who didn't have the normal real world stress of adult life to begin with-whether or not they were about to move to NYC after they graduated. I'm aware it was a bit of a dikc statement, but I think most of us who lived and worked in lower manhattan that day might have a tough time sympathizing with students on the Hilltop that particuarlly terrible fall. The Pentagaon was a rather obvious target in a big empty field/lot In NYC the target was just "as many civvilans/people as possible" and due to the extremely dense and vertical nature of the city, well, it's a bit different than DC unless you actually worked at the Capitol, White House, etc.
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Post by theexorcist on Feb 10, 2009 10:50:47 GMT -5
I will say that the weekend after 9/11, Georgetown still had SAC Fair. I'm still livid about that.
This seems to be about poor communication. If there was an event that was held at a specific time for the past few years, there should be clear and early notice that it's either canceled or won't be held.
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Post by tlphoya on Feb 10, 2009 11:06:32 GMT -5
I can also vouch that Block Party did exist. Was it always in the spring? For some reason I remember fall, but then again my memories from those days are a bit fuzzy...
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Post by thebin on Feb 10, 2009 11:10:46 GMT -5
Block Party got lamer and lamer with each year from 95-99. It was quite a rapid degeneration.
Party in the Lot for Homecoming then Block Party in Spring no?
The party in the Lot for Homecoming 95- it was pouring- was the biggest party by far I've ever seen. It was nutz.
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Post by Jack on Feb 10, 2009 11:14:29 GMT -5
I can also vouch that Block Party did exist. Was it always in the spring? For some reason I remember fall, but then again my memories from those days are a bit fuzzy... There used to be not 1 but 2 Block Parties- the Fall Block Party was typically the Friday of Homecoming Weekend, followed by an actual tailgate with cars and kegs and grills on Saturday before the football game which Georgetown usually won. Very different days, my friends. Brasky's memory of an event in the lot in front of McDonough is possibly the new homecoming tailgate, but probably something else like the senior BBQ- I recall something approximating real tailgating even during the Gonzalez years, albeit on the baseball field and with no kegs (they were banned at some point during my undergrad years). The last Block Party was definitely spring of 2000, and the Dean of Students was still James Donahue at that point.
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Post by tlphoya on Feb 10, 2009 12:05:58 GMT -5
Sounds familiar that there was something the Friday prior to Homecoming and then a separate event in the Spring on N st.
thebin, I was there for the downpour of 95 as well. I remember having a great time at the 1994 event also. It's terrible they stopped with allowing you to bring your own booze. Except I did have a keg roll out of the back of my car down 35th street one year after the event... At least I WAS NOT driving,
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 10, 2009 12:10:27 GMT -5
Definitely two blockparties. I had to go pick my friend up from jail the morning after the fall blockparty in 1999. Open container arrest. He spent night in central. Thanks DCMetro.
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